Video Vault: Baratza Forte Comparisons and Tutorials

Baratza Forte video

The Baratza Forté is the newest coffee and espresso grinder on the planet – what in the world is it all about? We've pitted it against some classics and peeked under the hood to help get the word out: this grinder's got guts!

See the fun-size fly-over, an overview of the Forté.

What about the competition? Watch them fight: Baratza Forté versus Mazzer Mini.

It's a family feud. Compare Baratza's Forté and Vario.

Something's off? Learn how to re-calibrate the Forte's scale.

Video Overview of the Forté

In this overview, Chris gives the full Forté tour: What's this grinder all about? Who's it for? Is it worth the money? Hit play to learn about burr size, dosing speed, range of adjustment, and more.

Baratza Forté versus Mazzer Mini

How does the Forté measure up to the Mazzer Mini? Both are shop-ready espresso grinders that sell in the neighborhood of $900. But one's faster, one's louder, one's stronger... and one's better for you. Which is it?

Forté versus Vario

The Forté is the beefed-up older brother of the Vario, and both grinders are suited for espresso and brewed coffee. Let Chris walk you through their differences and similarities in build, burr sets, and UI.

Calibrating the Forte's Scale

Did the scale on your Forté forget how to do its job? Re-calibrating the load cell is easy. You'll need your grinder, an extra scale, and half a pound of coffee (don't worry, it's not going anywhere). Tap that triangle to get started.

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We always recommend letting taste be your guide, Satish. There are very few hard and fast rules when it comes to coffee, and most everything else is a guideline. If you've found an 8 minute brew tastes good, who are we to dispute that! Still, if you'd like to cut down your brew time for convenience, then a coarser grind should do it. We do typically aim for 4-5 minutes when brewing with a Walkure, but that's just a target window that we've found works reliably well.

I used the 6Q setting on my Baratza Forte AP to make a Pour over with the Walkure Bayreuth with medium dark roast Costa Rican coffee. It took 8 minutes for 580 ml of water to pass through 36 grams of coffee. The coffee actually tasted fine, but I thought I read in your blog that it should take approximately 4 minutes for the water to pass through. Should I be using a coarser grind? Thank you.

That will depend on a few things, including your dose size, brew ratio, and the coffee that you're using. Denser, lighter coffees will need a bit finer grind for a fuller extraction, while darker and lower density beans can go a touch coarser. And the smaller your dose - brewing for one versus brewing for four - the finer your grind should be. That said, try starting with a 3-5 on the Macro lever, and mid-range on the Micro lever. This would be considered a medium-fine grind, or a fine drip. Work your way up or down from there to dial in your brews. Hope that helps!

What setting would you recommend on the Forte BG for a Hario V60?

OK great - that answers my question. I plan to use it primarily for espresso. I have a Walkure Bayreuth and wanted to check if this grinder could produce grinds coarse enough for that brewer. French press is not a deal breaker, but it would be nice to have that option as well. Thanks for your help.

The Forte AP will do just fine for most pour over brewing, Satish, but we would recommend the BG if you've got french press on your mind. The ceramic burrs excel at the finer end of the spectrum, so things like espresso and even a V60 will really shine. But, once you start getting into the coarser end of a medium grind size, the burrs can start to create a little more coffee dust, or fines. When it comes to a french press, that's not so good, as it can lead to a bitter and chalky brew with a lot of sediment. So, for anywhere from espresso to even something like a Clever, the AP will do nicely. That said, if you've got to pick one and espresso is in your brewing repertoire, go for the AP. Espresso is very picky about grind, so you may as well hedge your bets on the more espresso-capable grinder, and adjust your recipe for a slightly finer than usual french press grind.

How about using the Forte AP for pour over or french press occasionally? I know it is designed primarily for espresso, but it is advertised as an all purpose grinder.

Got my machine and what a great piece of equipment this one is. I was "instantly spoiled" - Dialed in my grind to the Black Pearl beans and pulled some shots -- "One button" grinds are great. Have been using a Pasquini Moka (a great grinder also) for about six years but the Forte takes convenience to a new level as well as a providing a "cool" grind with 7.8 seconds equaling 20g. With respect to Prima, had a hiccup in getting the Forte to the house but I cannot think of a better example of customer servce than what I got here. Very easy to get in touch with (both phone and email) and they provided results quickly. Will be doing more business here (Thanks Ryan)

Sounds delicious, Nicole!

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On fine settings, we found that both grinder retained about 10% of the total coffee input (~2 grams for a 20-gram dose). Grind medium-to-coarse, though, and just about everything makes it through. Grind uniformity is tough. We don't have the necessary equipment for giving a real, scientific answer, but we can say this: the Forté held its ground against the Mini. Our unaided eyes were impressed by its consistency.

You sure can, Vin! While we (and Baratza) don't recommend using the steel-burred Forté "BG" for espresso, the ceramic burrs are well-suited to grinding for brewed coffee.

Regarding Forte vs Mini, can you comment on retained grounds between doses and also on grind uniformity?

Can you use the espresso grinder for drip coffee grinding if you wanted to?

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